meeting date: 11 oct 2005 attending: Arpad Muranyi, Ian Dodd, Todd Westerhoff, Mike LaBonte ------------- Review of ARs: none ------------- BIRD95 - Can be implemented with macros. - Tie a table-driven current source to the power lead. Review of Mike's library - Mike released a library with 10 modules commented - Comment comments: - Why the "Behavior for R <= 0 is indeterminate."? - Problem for simulators that don't like R=0 - Instance call examples: - Show examples with fewer and more params - Show HSPICE-specific examples - Some with X1 and some with R1 - Show how it can be imlemented in a SPICE simulator in the header. Review of Arpad's library - Has 63 modules now - IBIS_TCVS_PWL - pre-programmed waveform, but not triggered - IBIS_VECVS_PWL is triggered - trigger on both edges? - parameter for that, default is both - ToDo list - ECL? - not needed now - Series MOSFET would be useful because it is a 3D table - These are for special use, not for general 3D tables - The [On] [Off] state limitations make them undesirable - S-param? - would phase shift be modeled? - could put into LaPlace - simulators try to work with bad data - but LaPlace likely to be inconsistent - Do really need this yet? - could be useful for packages - but we are doing buffers for now - B element with scaling? - HSPICE handles it - Cadence uses it - Handy for buffer design - Still, probably more complexity than we need - Need more modules? - No - PREV_X? - doable in AMS - Cadence has used it - simulator-specific - Again, probably more complexity than we need Someone needs to test Arpad's simulation files - No volunteers yet - Would like to have it tried in Spectre We invited 10 companies, where are they? - Should talk to them again - What semiconductor companies? - Ken was going to get a list AR: Mike will annotate library modules ------------- Next meeting: Tuesday 18 oct 2005.